Do Black Men Prefer White Women?
“While everyone is entitled to their preferences, true love has no colour…”
– Xenocrates
In the film Obsessed (2009), a deranged white woman (played by Ali Larter) comes on rather strongly to a powerful black executive (played by Idris Elba). Thereafter, the film becomes a setup for the ultimate cat fight between the white woman and the black man’s wife (played by Beyoncé Knowles). The plot reverses the black man pursues white woman stereotype.
While it is obvious that the film’s ludicrous plot is nothing more than a visualization of the revenge fantasy of every black woman who has ever lost a lover to a white woman, it does beg the question: Do black men prefer white women? Is there any truth to this stereotype? I explore this and other related issues in this thought provoking piece on sex and racial politics.
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I think black women should do a better job at taking care of themselves, then they wouldn’t need to ask so many insecure questions like this. If you know that men aren’t finding you attractive, then try to improve your looks by eating better (this shows, trust me) working out (eye catcher even for the plainest women), doing your make up and hair in classier ways. I applaud an authentic natural look but you hair should be calm and graceful looking, not wild and crazy which makes people think you have mental problems. Why is basic grooming so difficult for black women? When did they stop knowing what to do with their looks?
Sisters are looking awful and it makes me so embarrassed. Can you all learn how to look and act like ladies? The group is looking like a halloween show everyday and it’s just a disgrace. I ready to move out of the country because it’s so bad.
Xenlogic Said:
The argument is weak because it ignores the obvious genetic advantage that children of ‘sellouts’ receive when they have a black and white parent. Their kids get the genetic strengths of both phenotypes, with non of the disadvantages. Therefore, you’re ‘sellout’ idea is likely borne of ignorance.
LoStranger Said:
Exactly and most biracial’s usually tend to associate more with one side of their race then the other. Now because of the many problems black people have biracial usually see this and opt out on being “black” and marry and breed with white people (many even have self hate issues with their black side) Anyway this practice dilutes our race and giving them our genes. Then before you know it black people in America start looking whiter and whiter and fairer and fairer and no longer associate themselves as being black especially when they see how darker and more African featured Blacks are treated.
Xenlogic Said:
Algerians are also of African descent. Should they also be preoccupied with the production of BLACK PEOPLE? What about Egyptians? What about Libyans? Are they black because they live in Africa? Again, Lo’, your comment appears to be borne of ignorance.
LoStranger Said:
Ok I admit you got me there……..tell you what if it has brown skin and coarse hair breed with it is that better?
Xenlogic Said:
Or it could be that his dad was one of those educated black men who realized that our phenotypic differences are irrelevant. He might be one of those rare educated black men who sees this hyperactivity around the color of our skin to be much ado about nothing. Seems like a smart guy to me.
LoStranger Said:
Come on Xen you know that is not true, race is one of the MOST important things on this planet the only thing that supersedes race is probably wealth. Almost every part of our society is defined by race or what color you’re. Race psychologists have done hundreds probably thousands of studies and guess what they all found RACE MATTERS, SKIN COLOR MATTERS!
Xenlogic Said:
You know what my mixed race dad once said, Lo’? Great minds discuss Ideas. Average Minds discuss events. Simple minds discuss people. Simple minds are amused by simple things. Food for thought, my friend
LoStranger Said:
Very sweet….anyway since were sharing parental messages here’s something my Mother once said to me “Black people like to love everyone else but themselves”
Xenlogic Said:
Yes. That is likely due to group dynamics.
LoStranger Said:
Heres the real reason it’s because of superficial things such as status, sex and even deeper issues such as secretly self hating yourself. The whole union of interracial partnership doesn’t have some kind of divine elevated thinking attached to it like you think it isn’t beautiful it’s disgusting and cheap. Like I previously mentioned theres hidden agendas as to why SPECIFIC interracial unions exist, think about the most common forms of interracial union in the US (Black Men/White Women and White Men/Asian Women) now if there was some kind of elevated thinking attached to it we would see other forms of unions such as White Men/Black Women or Asian Men/White Women think about that for a second.
Xenlogic Said:
RUBBISH. Then how do you explain white couples that adopt black children
LoStranger Said:
LOL and what is the percentage of THAT? It’s in the stark minority mate
Xenlogic Said:
If that’s the case, then you’re a racist. End of story. You sound no different from the bigoted white men who use the same argument to suggest that it is wrong for black and white people to intermarry.
LoStranger Said:
Look white people should be grateful that I don’t dislike them the most…..
Lo’,
You’re a funny guy, I’ll give you that. You made me chuckle.
It is human nature to acquiesce to their most innovative genetic advantage. Can you blame them?
That sounds like what I’ve heard some Germans saying about Heidi Klum, that she was throwing away her DNA by marrying Seal. Sounds a lot like you agree with them. Do you agree with them, LoStranger?
Nature doesn’t give a damn about how we feel about racial dilution (since ‘race’ is really a German invention). It only cares about lifeforms with the greatest genetic advantage.
Wrong. Race doesn’t even factor into to the top 10 most important things on this planet. Let me give you the top 10:
1. Financial Crises (particularly in Europe and America)
2. National Security
3. Human Rights Violations in the Arab World
4. Religious Conflict
5. Climate Change
6. Food Shortages
7. Pandemic Disease
8. World Population (we’re at 7 billion people now)
9. Green Energy
10. China
…in more or less that order. Race relations probably doesn’t even factor into the top 50 greatest concerns in the world. You only think race is important because in your small world (and probably even smaller mind), being black is a big freaking deal. I promise you, most of the world hasn’t cared much about black people since the 1960’s when the civil rights act was passed. In fact, China only entered the top 10 during the Carter Administration and Green Energy (the most recent addition) was only added in 2008.
I think your priorities are all screwed up, sir. 🙂
Two things:
1. There’s no such thing as a “race psychologist”. There are however, Behavioural Psychologists.
2. Race matters to people who make race matter. It’s a classic Catch 22.
This is true. That’s why Black People struggled for freedom from slavery, strove for civil equality, and are now becoming the biggest stars in arts, entertainment, sports, culture, business and… wait a minute… 🙄 I think your moms needs to review the world in the 21st centry and revisit that statement. She probably had that view from the 1960’s & 1970’s.
That sounds like a really scientific, objective analysis. Oh wait, no it doesn’t. :p
No it isn’t hidden at all. It’s called “genetic advantage“.
Irrelevant. The fact is that there are white couples adopting black children. If there was even ONE white couple that adopted a black child, it automatically invalidates your earlier point. QED.
You know what they say: “Haters gonna hate, N!ggers gonna nig.”
Peace out, bro.
Xen
You’ve made me chuckle a few times too especially with your white worship anyway straight to business
Xenlogic Said:
It is human nature to acquiesce to their most innovative genetic advantage. Can you blame them?
LoStranger Said:
This is true which is why I am against even creating them in the first place. Blacks need to worry about sharing wealth resources, love and other things with OTHER black people n
Xenlogic Said:
That sounds like what I’ve heard some Germans saying about Heidi Klum, that she was throwing away her DNA by marrying Seal. Sounds a lot like you agree with them. Do you agree with them, LoStranger?
LoStranger Said:
LOL what DNA? what makes her so special?
Xenlogic Said:
Two things:
1. There’s no such thing as a “race psychologist”. There are however, Behavioral Psychologists.
2. Race matters to people who make race matter. It’s a classic Catch 22
LoStranger Said:
Fine fine Behavioral Psychologists who study RACE and don’t tell me they don’t because I’ve both watched and read material about race.
Xenlogic Said:
Wrong. Race doesn’t even factor into to the top 10 most important things on this planet. Let me give you the top 10:
1. Financial Crises (particularly in Europe and America)
2. National Security
3. Human Rights Violations in the Arab World
4. Religious Conflict
5. Climate Change
6. Food Shortages
7. Pandemic Disease
8. World Population (we’re at 7 billion people now)
9. Green Energy
10. China
LoStranger Said:
I disagree race easily makes top 5 though I’ll certainly agree it isn’t number one
Xenlogic Said:
Nature doesn’t give a damn about how we feel about racial dilution (since ‘race’ is really a German invention). It only cares about life forms with the greatest genetic advantage
Lostranger Said:
Nature might not care but society does which is why racial division and racial/skin color prejudice even exists. Everybody practices it not just Germans.
Xenlogic Said:
No it isn’t hidden at all. It’s called “genetic advantage“.
LoStranger Said:
Of course it’s Hidden do these people tell their lovers they’re marrying or breeding with them for their white skin or genetic advantage?
Xenlogic Said:
You know what they say: “Haters gonna hate, N!ggers gonna nig.”
Peace out, bro.
LoStranger
Heres another saying “coons gunna coon”
LOL @ “White worship” 😀
You know what I find funny? If I say something true like “black people don’t number strongly among the smartest people in the world“, you’d tell me that was rubbish. But if I said that “white people don’t number strongly among the most physically endowed people in the world“, you wouldn’t have a problem with it.
Tell me that I’m wrong. 😀 LOL
There’s one small problem with that. Genetic Innovativeness goes both ways. It’s not just black people marrying whites. It’s whites being drawn to black people.
That would only work if the entire world was only populated by black people. Do you have any other suggestions? 🙂
She was a super model — y’know, like these black ones. LOL
Y’know what behavioural psychologists also say? That people with insecurities cannot appreciate negative feedback about themselves.
I assure you, world governing bodies like the UN don’t have race even in their top 20 concerns. It certainly numbers among the top 3 in America (for obvious reasons). But I promise you, it is not a worldwide concern of such magnitude.
In the cosmic ecology, societies are irrelevant. They come and go. Nature however remains the same evil bitch it always was.
Irrelevant. Nobody is attracted to people who aren’t attractive.
LOL — what’s a ‘coon’? LOL
Thanks for the laffs.
Xen
Xenlogic Said;
You know what I find funny? If I say something true like “black people don’t number strongly among the smartest people in the world“, you’d tell me that was rubbish. But if I said that “white people don’t number strongly among the most physically endowed people in the world“, you wouldn’t have a problem with it.
LoStranger Said:
Nah I don’t fall into that trap I know whites have advantages particularly in scientifical and technological advancements
Xenlogic Said:
There’s one small problem with that. Genetic Innovative ness goes both ways. It’s not just black people marrying whites. It’s whites being drawn to black people.
LoStranger Said:
Yeah fantastic….. As long as I can influence blacks to stay away from whites I’ll be happy.
Xenlogic Said:
That would only work if the entire world was only populated by black people. Do you have any other suggestions? 🙂
LoStranger Said:
When we were under Jim Crow laws before the civil rights movement we exclusively practiced group economics so its more then do-able. Only support your own stores owned by your own kind like the Asians do It’s difficult but not impossible to separate ourselves heck the Chinese do it in pretty much every Country they inhabit especially the black 1’s
Xenlogic Said:
I assure you, world governing bodies like the UN don’t have race even in their top 20 concerns. It certainly numbers among the top 3 in America (for obvious reasons). But I promise you, it is not a worldwide concern of such magnitude.
LoStranger Said
Ok I can agree with that.
Xenlogic Said:
Y’know what behavioural psychologists also say? That people with insecurities cannot appreciate negative feedback about themselves.
LoStranger Said:
They also talk about Stockholm syndrome you know when someone has you tied up and enslaved for so many years and you end up loving and defending them sound familiar Xen?
Xenlogic Said:
In the cosmic ecology, societies are irrelevant. They come and go. Nature however remains the same evil bitch it always was.
LoStranger Said
Well guess what society matters when trying to get a job or money society matters when you have to tirelessly listen to your people be bombarded with racial slurs and being compared to animals. Societies are relevant because we live in them….
And like I said before whites aren’t even top of the list for me. The mistake many blacks make it just looking at white people as their enemy which is a HUGE mistake because our newest enemy is breeding like a rabbit and invading like locus and trust me he has the potential to be 100x worse then the white man.
Being a boyishly handsome,58-year-old black Canadian lad,I DEFINITELY prefer buxom blondes between 24 and 42.(And vice versa;they’ve told me I resemble a handsome black cowboy in my Western garb and LAY IT DOWN LIKE ONE OUT OF IT!!!!) LoStranger,you DO know your boy Louis Farra**-Clown had Malcolm X-and from what I’ve heard through the years,DOZENS of other dissidents killed?(And don’t get me started on how Little Louie
visited Sub-Saharan African countries and supported the Muslim rulers who oppress,enslave and murder black Christians.Black Nationalism:another scam to take advantage of the ignorant,BUT NOT ME ND MY 154-genus-level!!!!IQ) So save youe Pan-Africanist crap for some of these brainless turkeys here;I was born at nine p.m.,BUT NOT NINE P.M. LAST NIGHT,OR THE NIGHT BEFORE THAT!!!!
RideHandsome Said:
Being a boyishly handsome,58-year-old black Canadian lad
Lostranger Said:
58 years old you’re anything but “boyish” gramps….
RideHandsome Said:
Black Nationalism:another scam
LoStranger Said:
Real BLACK Nationalism is anything but a scam real black nationalism is about this:
“Malcolm X believed that African people must develop their own society and ethical values, including the self-help, community-based enterprises, such as the Alcoholics Anonymous, that the black Muslims supported. He also thought that African Americans should reject integration or cooperation with European Americans until they could achieve cooperation among themselves. Malcolm called for a black revolution.”
However since you and many black people like you are obsessed with white women I doubt you care or can even understand the significance of that.
RideHandsome Said:
BUT NOT ME ND MY 154-genus-level!!!!IQ
Lostranger Said:
Yet you can’t even use proper spelling in the very sentence you proclaim to have genius level IQ. You been whacking off to too many pictures of white women it’s frazzled your brain son
You can tell You are not Black but some sort of white guy. It’s largely white dudes that push this nonsense about Black dudes wanting what girls. Everyone else KNOW that Black Men aren’t the slightest bit attracted to WHITE women. If it stated why Black Men prefer THICK women or Latinas then we’d have subject for discussion. But the idea that Black Men would want a white woman is just as BOGUS of a claim that a Black Woman would want a WHITE man. It’s just not true. I see that the Jewish media is trying to force Blacks into being open to dating whites and that this propaganda campaign of “Black Men wanting white women & Black Women wanting white men” is the cheer lead in HOPING that Blacks eventually come to dating white people. White women are not sexually appealing to Black Men and Black Women reject White men because of the SAME opinion about white men. It’s just that the Jewish media moguls want to drown out Black rejection of white companionship with with own mantra which they want Black Men & Women to adopt. Of the lesser races, Blacks are the most prominent and least competent so JEWS feel like they can coerce BLACK Men & Women into this by speaking FOR Blacks through controlling media outlets which ONLY DEPICT BLACK-WHITE COUPLES. But as Blacks-Latinas-Middle Asians, we are certain that Blacks object to this because of our daily interaction with Blacks. There’s nothing more distasteful to a Black Man than a WHITE woman. Nothing. We understand Black females as having the same opinion of WHITE men. It’s just a matter of what you will be foolish enough to succumb to.
I’m not white, and I never once said in the post that black men prefer white women. Next time, read before you comment. You might make people think you’re black.
Oh wait…
This is an intriguing theory, but what do people define as a “genetic innovation”? Why are some genetic innovations preferred over others? Why would some genetic mutations(such as hirsutism or albinism) make people recoil in horror, yet a mutation such as blonde hair is highly sought after? How do people decide between which is a beneficial mutation for mating purposes and which mutations are to be avoided?
That’s a very good question, Tulio.
Whatever the mutation may be, it appears that our internal DNA machine is already wired up to ascertain which mutation is more desirable than others. Perhaps a better way to answer your question would be to address the function of genetic innovation.
According to folks at the human genome project, genetic innovation is any mutation that is perceived to give offspring a genetic advantage. This addresses your concerns as follows:
1. Albinoism – This mutation exposes the host phenotype to dangerous ultra-violet radiation, thereby increasing the risk of skin cancer. While it is indeed a mutation, it is not an advantageous one.
2. Hirsutism – This mutation creates a female with a greater degree of hair that would be more suitable for a male. While it is a mutation, it repulses males because of the host phenotype’s adrogenous qualities.
Compare Blonde Hair & Green Eyes – Any genetic mutation that softens the physiology of a phenotype will grant it greater advantage over any other. Fairer phenotypes tend to have undergone more genetic refinement and thus a reduced susceptibility to certain primitive diseases. Of course, symmetrical representation of a physical body also makes such an open declaration of healthiness.
Scientists agree that while black people are the most original version of modern man, Caucasians are merely the latest revision of that gene stock. Ergo, as Caucasians were the very last revision, they carry more mutations and thus, a higher probability of favourable genetic innovation. Even so, because black people are the original version of modern man, they carry the widest genetic variation of all phenotypes. It is commonly said that each Caucasian offspring (even two from the same parents) carry less and less genetic variance between them than any randomly selected offspring of a black person.
This is why it is possible for a black couple to give birth to a white child, but white couples are not likely to.
I mention that to suggest that it is statistically likely that a black man living in a white man’s country will find virtually every white female to be more genetically innovative than any black female known to him. The same can be said of a white male living in a black man’s country. The innovativeness is measured in what will give the offspring the best advantage. The offspring of a mixed race couple usually carries all of the genetic advantages of either parental phenotype, with none of their disadvantages.
I hope this answers your question.
Xen.
I think the actual reason that the Japanese have more Caucasian features is because of the Sino along with the Korean colonists of Japan, breeding with the native Ainu austronesian populations in Japan. When you breed
Austronesian aborginals with a mongoloid population, you get people that are superficially Caucasian looking but are not true Caucasoids. So I don’t think this is natural selection being innovative per say, otherwise the same could be said for Mongolians and North Chinese but we know they have heavy Mongoloid features which haven’t changed for thousands of years.
Tulio, Robert Lindsay I believe pointed this out a while back on the topic. The whole notion that the Japanese have Caucasian features due to natural selection alone is incorrect and fallacious.You also have to take into account plastic surgery and double eyelid surgery, skin whitening etc; all Japanese are obsessed with being White or having Caucasoid features, like Koreans or Chinese celebrities, so you also have to take this into account as well.
Actually the reason why the Japanese have caucasian features is because the Chinese and Korean colonists of the Japanese islands bred with the aborginal Ainu. When you mix an aborginal person with a mongoloid person, you get
someone who is superficially Caucasian looking but does not have true Caucasian blood or relations. The notion that the Japanese have Caucasian features because of pure genetic innovation due to the Japanese islands by incident is pretty ludicrous and incorrect at best. That simply is not right at all, otherwise that leaves more unanswered questions then anything else.
Tulio I believe Robert Lindsay pointed this out in one of his blog posts, he showed different groups and the results you get when you intermix them. If we were to simply go by that theory alone, then the Mongolians, North Chinese and Asians would have developed similar Caucasian features, but we know this isn’t the case, even when some of do have Caucasoid ancestry like in Uzbekistan or the Central Asian states. You also have to take into account that the Japanese and Koreans are obsessed with looking like White people and will do anything to be like them; a lot of Japanese people and Korean celebrities get double eyelid and plastic surgery, while going through all sorts of procedures to mimic Caucasians, so you also have to take that into note as well, as it’s a factor to consider.
Kris Said:
You are an idiot. Just because a black male dates or marries someone outside the black race does not mean he has sold out.
LoStranger Said:
The only idiot here is you. Yes you’re a sellout because you’re encouraging the production of race mixing. As a man of african descent you shoud be encouraging the production of BLACK PEOPLE
Kris Said:
Growing up I was told by my father, who happened to be a black male that I need to date someone who I loved and who loved me.
LoStranger Said:
Well your father was obviously on that “I don’t see colour” “we are the world” non-sense. Theres a reason why specific interracial groups are together more then other groups think about that for a while
Kris Said:
But if you want me to pick, I choose, white women, I’ve had less headache and less drama dating and dealing with white females
LoStranger Said:
Of course you do because your a Willie lynched Sambo Negro if you were truly a Black man that actually liked being black you would NEVER say that because you would want black children…
Kris Said:
So I’m glade you’re proud being a black male, but don’t accuse every black man who dates outside the race, a sell out.
LoStranger Said
You’re a sellout end of story. You don’t like being called that then stop dating white women.
Virgil,
If a man calls you an idiot, calling him back an idiot doesn’t prove anything (aside from getting in your cathartic kicks). Rather, prove that you aren’t an idiot (which at this point, based on your position, will require some effort on your behalf).
Secondly, if he’s an idiot, then so am I. I don’t see anything wrong with dating black women. One would have to be pretty racist to think that there’s something inherently wrong with interracial union. Are you racist, Lo’?
That sounds like the same kind of argument I hear coming from gangsters living in the ‘hood who call their neighbours who got rich and moved out ‘sellouts’. The argument is weak because it ignores the obvious genetic advantage that children of ‘sellouts’ receive when they have a black and white parent. Their kids get the genetic strengths of both phenotypes, with non of the disadvantages. Therefore, you’re ‘sellout’ idea is likely borne of ignorance.
Algerians are also of African descent. Should they also be preoccupied with the production of BLACK PEOPLE? What about Egyptians? What about Libyans? Are they black because they live in Africa? Again, Lo’, your comment appears to be borne of ignorance.
Or it could be that his dad was one of those educated black men who realized that our phenotypic differences are irrelevant. He might be one of those rare educated black men who sees this hyperactivity around the colour of our skin to be much ado about nothing. Seems like a smart guy to me.
You know what my mixed race dad once said, Lo’? Great minds discuss Ideas. Average Minds discuss events. Simple minds discuss people. Simple minds are amused by simple things. Food for thought, my friend. 😉
Yes. That is likely due to group dynamics.
RUBBISH. Then how do you explain white couples that adopt black children?
If that’s the case, then you’re a racist. End of story. You sound no different from the bigoted white men who use the same argument to suggest that it is wrong for black and white people to intermarry.
What “specific” interracial couplings is Lostranger talking about? I for one, have never seen an Asian man ever have a chance with higher caliber modelesque Middle Eastern, Southern European, North African women. Is this due to the nature of “social dynamics”?